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  • THE ZIGZAGS
    OF OUR HISTORY



    The trip on which we are inviting you now is
    absolutely unusual.


    The historian-reformers
    contend that Christ was born after the millennium... A.D. That is, he was born, lived and was crucified
    not 2,000 years ago, as the traditional chronology maintains, but in the epoch
    of the 10th-11th centuries A.D. At the same time, the scientists are producing a
    mass of tremendously interesting facts, evidence and assumptions. One can find them in the numerous volumes of
    the works of G. Nosovskiy and A. Fomenko, in the works of academician M.
    Morozov, and in the books of a whole series of Western scientists. Many of them have been published and still
    will be published on the pages of the RevisedHistory.org Web site. Let us then, armed with their conclusions, set
    off on a trip though the places connected with Christ's work.


    Our trip runs not
    toPalestine, not to present-day
    Jerusalem, but to
    Turkey. To
    Istanbul! To that very
    Istanbul which several centuries ago
    was called Constantinople and was the capital of the huge
    Byzantine Christian Empire. In which connection it also was called New Rome
    and...Jerusalem. Then, in those
    centuries, in the opinion of the historian-reformers, the word
    "Jerusalem" meant
    "Holy
    City." No more, but also no less. It
    is here that Jesus Christ lived and preached.


    The Star of Bethlehem,
    referred to in all kinds of sources, let alone the New Testament, points to the
    fact that he was born in the 11th century. In 1054, the brightest star flared
    up-there was a colossal explosion of a supernova millions of parsecs from Earth.
    The so-called Crab Nebula, which is studied by all the world's astronomers,
    still remains from it to this day. In the century in which, in the opinion of
    the traditionalists, Christ was born, there was no such flare-up in space.


    Believers have connected the
    explosion of the supernova with the birth of the Messiah. And this explosion can
    serve as a reliable reference point of Christ's life.


    According to the Gospel,
    after 33 years he was crucified at Golgotha near
    Jerusalem. When they equated the
    Jerusalem of the Gospel with the
    present in the 17-18th centuries, then, essentially, they tried to find this
    Golgotha itself. But that which is being proposed to us
    now as Golgotha in modern
    Palestine, it's a little hill. One
    can find such hills wherever they like.


    At the same time, outside of
    Istanbul there is a place which one
    can rather reliably equate with the Golgotha of the
    Gospel. The highest mountain in the Upper Bosphorus.
    Today it bears the name Beykoz. And at its summit (180 meters above sea level)
    is situated a giant symbolic grave which is called "the grave of Jesus." In
    Turkish, Jesus-Yusa.


    It is unlikely you have heard
    about it. Therefore, let's get better acquainted with it.


    The official Christian church
    has declared it the grave of another Jesus - of Jesus Navin.((1)) But in
    particular, the crusaders came here with maniacal persistence all the way up to
    the last crusade (1453), so as to seize the Holy Sepulchre by storm. They went
    all out for Constantinople, and not modern
    Jerusalem. It also is known for
    certain that Russians sailed in particular to
    Czarigrad=Constantinople to Christ's grave.


    What does it look like
    today?


    A flat, rectangular earthen
    rise 17 meters long and 2 meters wide. It is surrounded with a high cast-iron
    grate, enclosed by means of an iron netting. The point is that the local
    inhabitants consider the grave miraculous and come here in order to be healed of
    their illnesses. But, the iron netting doesn't allow the pilgrim to touch the
    holy ground inside the fence.


    The ground is overgrown with
    thick grass. Several high trees grow. At the opposite end of the grave are two
    circular cylindrical stones, which are reminiscent of small millstones. In the
    center of one of them are seen a quadrangular opening and a very noticeable
    fissure. All this is enclosed by a stone wall, in which two doors and several
    windows have been made. The pilgrims enter one of the doors, pass around the
    grave in a circle and exit outside through a second door.


    Nothing has changed here in
    several centuries. In the well-known Old Russian text, "The Pilgrimage of Abbot
    Daniel," a description is given of the
    Jerusalem of the Gospel. In modern
    Russian translation, a fragment of this text reads thus: "The place of the
    crucifixion of the Lord is found on the eastern side on the stone. It was high.
    The stone itself was round, not unlike a small hill, and in the middle of that
    stone, on the very top, a socket-hole is carved out nearly a cubit in depth, and
    the width is not less than a foot in diameter. It is here that the cross of the Lord was
    erected. In the ground itself, beneath the stone lays the head of the first
    Adam. . . And that stone has broken up above Adam's head. . . And there is this
    fissure in the stone even to this day. . . The place of the Lord's crucifixion
    and that holy stone are enclosed all round with a wall. . . there are two
    doors."


    Everything agrees precisely
    with the present appearance of the grave on
    Mount
    Beykoz on the outskirts of
    Istanbul. Daniel further notes that
    is it about five sajenes ((2)) from the Lord's crucifixion to the descent from
    the cross. Actually, at the other end of the grave is a second stone
    approximately the very same size, but without the fissure. Most likely it marks
    the place of the "descent from the cross," that is, the place where they laid
    the body of Jesus after taking him down from the cross.


    And then it becomes
    understandable why the grave is so huge. The place where Jesus was crucified
    also ascribes to it. As regards the famous Holy Sepulchre, which the crusaders
    recaptured from the Turks, today it apparently is no longer on
    Mount
    Beykoz. Daniel saw it and described
    it as a sarcophagus: "Out of the rock a
    grotto small," that is, "a small cave
    hewn from the stone." In which connection, with small doors: "it hath doors which are small." One could
    enter only on hands and knees.


    According to Daniel and other
    sources of the Middle Ages, the Holy Sepulchre was at the separate Church of the
    Resurrection. Some kind of a small building has been built onto the wall now.
    There are no other buildings. There is information that at some time the ruins
    of some kind of Byzantine buildings were found here.


    Alongside the grave of Jesus
    are several common graves. There are huge ones, too, but somewhat lower. The
    historian-reformers are expressing the supposition that the disciples of Jesus,
    his apostles, are buried in some of them.


    There also is one more
    stunningly majestic and splendid
    monument of
    Christianity in
    Istanbul=Constantinople.
    This is the Hagia Sophia Temple. In it is the famous golden mosaic which depicts
    Jesus Christ. They call it "one of the greatest works and triumphs of mosaic art
    in Constantinople." Gold, precious and semiprecious
    stones. According to the new reconstruction of
    history, the Hagia Sophia Temple is not so different than the Biblical
    temple of
    Solomon. In the modern view, it was
    built in the 16th century by the sultan Suleyman (Solomon) the Magnificent. In
    the subsequent two centuries, the temple was remade into a mosque.


    Starting from the
    11th all the way to the 15th centuries,
    Czarigrad=Jerusalem was considered
    the center of the world of that time. It
    is also portrayed so on maps. On one of them, dated 1581,
    Jerusalem is located in the center
    of the world. It is drawn in that place where the three continents come
    together, symbolically depicted by three petals: Europe,
    Asia and Africa. Such a portrayal
    agrees with the location of Istanbul
    on the Bosphorus Straits. The straits also separate
    Europe from Asia exactly, and
    Africa lies to the south.


    If understood, the discovery
    of Jerusalem in
    Constantinople is not such a surprise. The fact is that
    the Christian Church itself was the first to begin a search for Biblical
    locations other than those which are indicated in the Gospels. Starting from the
    13th century, the Catholic Church has claimed that the very house where the
    Virgin Mary lived and where the Archangel Gabriel appeared to her is in the
    Italian city of Loreto. The earliest
    document concerning the "House of Loreto" is a Bull of Urban VI (in 1387.) In
    1891, Leo XIII published an encyclical on the occasion of the "600th
    anniversary of the miracle in Loreto." That is, he dated this miracle in
    1291! So, when then was Christ
    born? And where? The zigzags of history take one's breath away.
    Making them more interesting for
    investigation.



    R. Grishin , 2002



    References:



    ((1)) Jesus Navin is another name given to Joshua, the successor to
    Moses in the Old Testament.



    ((2)) About 35 feet.



1 comment
  • Sojourner Robert Hess
    Sojourner Robert Hess odd, this would place the events in the gospel nearly 1000 years AFTER the gospels have been dated to having been written and a good deal later than Christian art has been dated to.. something is fishy in the revisionist waters I think..
    July 12, 2012