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CHRISTIAN PANTHEIST FAQs
What is the central belief of Christian Pantheism?
Christian Pantheism believes that the universe and nature are Divine CHRIST. By this it means that they deserve a religious reverence. Understanding them, appreciating their beauty, and preserving neighbor nature, should be the central focus of our love.
"Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." Matthew 22:38-40
Why do Christian pantheists believe in Pantheism?
There are several compelling reasons:
1) Most traditional classical Christian religions have elements, which are hard to believe or to reconcile with common sense, evidence or modern science. Most Christian pantheists are reared in other classical Christian religions, and as they mature come to question what they have been taught. This leads many people to atheism or Humanism.
2) Atheism and Humanism don't suffer from the logical or empirical problems of traditional classical Christian religions - but many people find them too cold and dry. They don't provide a sense of positive belonging to nature and the universe.
3) Nearly everyone feels religious feelings when looking at nature or the night sky. Most people explain those feelings in terms of the religion they were taught as children.
Christian Pantheism believes that those feelings are older and more basic than any traditional religion: they are a natural part of our existence as natural material beings. They are a recognition of our participation and belonging as members of nature and the Divine Universe.
This is a feeling Universe.
Christian Pantheism takes those feelings as its basic foundation.
"We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error." 1 John 4:6
What's the evidence for Christian Pantheism? How do you know the Universe is Divine?
We define the word "divine" by reference to our feelings. If something is "divine," it means that humans regard it with awe, reverence, love, feelings of belonging and a recognition of tremendous power, beauty and mystery.
Almost everyone regards the universe or nature in that way. We need no faith, no ancient books, to reveal these feelings and experiences to us. The visions are right in front of our eyes, the feelings are in our hearts. We only need to recognize them frankly to accept the universe as divine.
The evidence for this approach is infinitely stronger than for belief in the classical Christian personal creator God.
"Which is a manifest token [evidence] of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:" 2 Thessalonians 1:5
If I accept Christian Pantheism, what difference would it make?
You would acquire the most positive attitude to existence on earth in a human body that any religion or philosophy can offer. You would focus your religious energy on nature and the universe. Instead of admiring these as evidence of a classical creator God's glory, you would love them for themselves. You would gain a much stronger basis for concern about the environment than any other Western religion can foster.
You would overcome all sense of separation from the earth and from your own body. If you belong to a traditional religion, you would enhance faith and common sense with the factual science of Christ, and reconcile the religious and the everyday parts of your thinking.
You would express Christian Pantheism through seasonal rituals, celebrating the Sabbath, which would link you to the earth and universe of which you are part, and through meditation techniques which allow a direct mystical experience of nature and matter, which are the very essence of Christ.
Is Christian Pantheism just theism in disguise?
No. Theism means belief in a classical personal God who is greater and older than the universe. This God may or may not be present in the universe.
Christian Pantheism says simply that the universe is Divine, the Universe is God. This is a statement about the attitude we should adopt towards the universe and nature - an attitude, which we have no choice but to adopt as we open our eyes to the full awe and mystery of reality.
The Divine Universe has some features in common with the God of classical and traditional religions - its power, immensity, and mystery. But it is not just personal. It has a mind apart from the minds of intelligent species within it.
Before we can really understand the Divine cosmos, we must forget everything we have learned about traditional classical interpretations of gods, and learn to look at what is in front of our eyes with an open mind.
The cosmos is neither loving nor vengeful, it is Christ.
"For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people." Hebrews 10:30
So is Christian Pantheism just atheism or Humanism in disguise?
Again: no. Like atheism and Humanism, Pantheism does not believe in a personal God separate from the Universe. Like them it is critical of beliefs that depend on faith in impossibilities, or unproven revelations in ancient books.
But atheism is essentially defined by a negative. It states that there is no God, and nothing more. It is not a coherent philosophy. Humanism has tried to develop a positive philosophy, but sometimes this has been too anthropocentric, too confident of human superiority.
Christian Pantheism goes far beyond atheism in offering a positive approach to the world and a reverent and religious attitude toward nature and the universe. It affirms our unity with these, and rejects the idea of human mastery over nature or human pre-eminence in the cosmos. It takes our relationship to nature and to the universe as the center of our religion, our ethics and our aesthetics.
"Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ." 1 Thessalonians 1:1
What is the difference between Christian Pantheism and panentheism?
Pantheists and pantheists share the view that the universe and every natural thing in it is pervaded by divinity.
However, pan-en-theos means "all-in-God" - that is, the universe is contained within God, not God in the universe. Christian Pantheists believe in a God who is present in everything but also extends beyond the universe. In other words, God is greater than the universe.
Christian Pantheists believe that the universe itself is Divine Christ.
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1
Does Christian Pantheism have anything to do with pantheon or polytheism?
Only the etymology. In Greek pan means all, theos means god, while poly means many.
POLYTHEISM is belief in many gods.
The PANTHEON (=all gods) is the collection of classical deities like Zeus, Hera and so on, or a building in which they are worshipped.
PANTHEIST (all=god) is a term coined in 1705 by John Toland, for someone who believes that Everything is God. On this basis in 1732 the Christian apologist Daniel Waterland used the noun "PANTHEISM" for the first time, condemning the belief as "scandalously bad . . . scarce differing from . . . Atheism."
Very confusingly, many dictionaries give an alternative definition of Pantheism as "belief in all the gods." However, this use is based on a nineteenth century misunderstanding. Pantheism was first recorded in this erroneous sense in 1837 - one hundred and five years after its first use in the original sense - by Sir Francis Palgrave. Palgrave wrote: "The great proportion of the Tartar tribes professed a singular species of Pantheism, respecting all creeds, attached to none." Probably Palgrave had heard the word Pantheism and confused it with the word "pantheon" - a temple erected to all the Gods. Other people repeated his mistake, and their usage was recorded in the first edition of the Oxford English Dictionary (published between 1884 and 1928). It's important to note that this second "meaning" has nothing at all to do with the original meaning, with which it is incompatible and contradictory. It's also useful to note that "belief in all the gods" is not the same as "POLYTHEISM" which means belief in many gods. Polytheism usually means belief in the several gods of a particular national culture. Pantheism in its second sense means belief in all the gods of all nations. This second meaning of Pantheism is never used today in books on religion or philosophy. It only persists in dictionaries because it crept into the OED, the mother of all dictionaries, consulted by every new dictionary-compiler. And it only crept into the OED because of a mistaken use of the word! Hopefully bolder dictionary compilers will soon begin to omit the second meaning, which is never used by anyone familiar with the first, original meaning.
"For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you. God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring." Acts 17:23-28
What is the relationship between Pantheism, Paganism and Christian Pantheism?
There are many points in common between Paganism and Pantheism. Most pagans say they are pantheists, but not Christian Pantheist. They too believe that divinity is manifested everywhere. They too celebrate solstices, equinoxes and other natural passages. They too have a strong environmental ethic and a deep love of nature.
Many pagans are straight pantheists, using polytheism as a metaphoric way of approaching the cosmic divinity. Some people feel the need for symbols and personages to mediate their relationship with nature and the cosmos. There is potential harm in this, although symbols may help us to connect to theist or God Reality, that symbol of Reality may also block or distort our view of Reality it mediates to reveal.
Pantheists can also relate directly to the universe and to nature, without the need for any intermediary symbols or deities. The divine cosmos manifests itself directly to us in nature and the night sky.
However, many pagans are literal polytheists, and believe in magic, reincarnation, and the irrational.
Christian pantheists are not polytheists, and do not believe in magic, or disembodied spirits. Most of them do not believe in a personal afterlife, whether through reincarnation or transport to any kind of non-material "heaven."
If by the irrational, people mean a strongly emotional and aesthetic approach to nature and the universe, then we support it just as strongly as any pagan. But we see no conflict in principle between this and science, reason, logic, or faith. The findings of science have often been abused to harm nature and humans, but to correct the harm we need better, more ethical science and better public control over science and technology - not an abandonment of science. Without science we would have no hope of saving the earth, and no hope of understanding the universe we live in.
However, if the irrational means abandonment of science, reason, logic and faith, then Christian pantheists reject it. Once these are abandoned, all beliefs are equally valid - including racism, fascism and the wildest superstitions.
"I have spread out my hands all the day unto a rebellious people, which walketh in a way that was not good, after their own thoughts; A people that provoketh me to anger continually to my face; that sacrificeth in gardens, and burneth incense upon altars of brick; Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels; Which say, Stand by thyself, come not near to me; for I am holier than thou. These are a smoke in my nose, a fire that burneth all the day." Isaiah 65:5
Has Pantheism got anything to do with Animism?
Animism is the belief that every living thing in nature - including trees, plants and even rocks or streams - has its own spirit or divinity. In primitive societies Animism often requires that before anyone can kill an animal or fell a tree, its natural spirit must be placated.
Pantheism is in a sense a natural development of Animism. Christian Pantheism celebrates the divinity inherent in the whole of the universe and nature. This whole possesses the power, the creativity, the awe and mystery that we need for a supreme divinity.
However, the whole exists through and in its parts. Every natural thing from the sun to a grain of sand, from a giant sequoia to a bacterium, partakes of the divinity. Every natural thing has the numinous quality of being an incarnation of reality, a distinctive organization of matter with its own unique character and dignity. Some natural things - like the sun, or the ocean, or trees - possess that numinous quality in larger measure. Only animals have nervous systems. But all living things have communication systems, through which information about the external world is transmitted by way of chemical and electrical messages. In this sense they have "spirits." Even inanimate objects are shaped by and shape their environment and in that sense are responsive.
The Christian pantheist attitude to all individual natural phenomena is one of appreciation of beauty, quiet and respectful observation, love and care, because it is all an expression of Christ. Since it is impossible for us to perceive or grasp the whole universe or the whole of nature at once, we can revere it in and through its constituent parts.
"yet for us there is only one God, the Father, from whom everything came into being and for whom we live. And there is only one Lord, Jesus the Messiah, through whom everything came into being and through whom we live." 1 Corinthians 8:6
Does Christian Pantheism believe that all things are one as in Pantheism?
Spinoza, the first modern pantheist, believed that there was only one substance in the universe, and that was God. This position is known as substantial monism.
Most modern pantheists are monists in the sense that they believe there is only one type of substance - matter - rather than two different and distinct types, spirit and matter. They believe that all individual things have a common origin with humans, and are closely interlinked and interdependent in many ways. They and we interconnect through social systems and ecosystems and the greater system of Gaia, as well as through gravity and the universe-wide spread of signals and impacts.
However, few modern pantheists would agree with Spinoza's extreme form of monism.
Christian Pantheist or anyone with eyes can see that matter in the universe is arranged into distinct individual things: galaxies, stars, planets, trees, people. This diversity is an essential part of the beauty of nature and the night sky. Without diversity everything would be drably monotonous.
Attempts to deny diversity usually end up in claiming that the visible world is mere illusion. Scientific Pantheism and Christian Pantheism believes the universe is vibrantly real, in descriptive energy terms of frequency, amplitude and vibration.
So things are one in some senses, and many in other senses. They are linked in some senses, and separate in others. Anyone who claims that things are totally united, or totally separate, is flying in the face of everyday experience and of scientific evidence.
Christian Pantheism believe that everything is one string of Christ energy.
"But we know that there is only one God, the Father, who created everything, and we live for him. And there is only one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom God made everything and through whom we have been given life." 1 Corinthians 8:6 New International Version
Does Christian Pantheism believe that humans are one with nature and the cosmos?
Yes, there is a fundamental underlying unity. Humans are made of the same substance as the rest of the universe. We don't have any magic spiritual ingredient just for ourselves.
We developed as part of nature, and remain part of local and global ecosystems.
However, humans do have consciousness, and that can be a blessing or a curse. The conscious mind evolved to help survival, and it can help us to relate to nature and the universe through love, appreciation, study and action. But consciousness also means awareness of one's own individuality, so it can also give us a misleading sense of separation from and radical difference from the world. Our ideas can also develop out of tune with reality and with nature.
So it is important not just to state that there is a unity, but to learn to perceive that unity, to understand it, and to act upon it.
"No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us." 1 John 4:12
If God is everything, then surely all actions are God's actions, and there is no distinction between right and wrong?
This is a misconceived classical Christian criticism of Christian Pantheism. Certainly a few sects of Pantheists (like Tantric Buddhists and some zealous Christian heresies) have believed this.
But remember that Christian Pantheism does not say that "God is everything", but rather that the universe is Divine. Within that overall divinity, it is possible for intelligent species or individuals to become separated from the divinity and to act in conflict with it, by harming nature or other people.
Modern pantheists are not amoral as is the same regarding Christian Pantheism. They have very strong ideas about right and wrong in relation to environmental ethics and social justice. They would consider environmentally destructive or unjust and oppressive actions as "evil."
"A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh." Luke 6:45
Does Christian Pantheism believe that everything is predetermined and there is no free will?
Some pantheists, like Spinoza and Einstein, have believed this. The Stoics believed in a divine providence, as if the universe had a plan for its own evolution.
But there is no logical link between Pantheism and determinism. Many pantheists have not been determinists, and many believe in free will.
Christian nor Scientific Pantheism does not believe in determinism. Of course no-one could prove conclusively that things were not predetermined - the future may already exist, and we may be simply moving into it. In that case space time would be like a monolithic, rigid block with no freedom of movement and no room for free will.
But there is no scientific evidence to suggest this. Indeed two crucial branches of modern science strongly suggest the contrary.
Quantum physics suggests that although the overall pattern of sub-atomic events is predictable, the outcome of any particular event is unpredictable and seems to be undetermined - at least by any laws we are presently aware of.
However, additional Quantum observations site that particles were also influenced by the observer. Christian Pantheism affirms that God interacts and interprets our will, which is free to be or do virtually anything.
The science of chaos shows that very small differences in the present can make enormous differences in the future - a butterfly flapping its wings in China may cause a cyclone in the Bay of Bengal. Therefore it would be possible for a tiny undetermined sub-atomic event today to influence the future on a very large scale, just as minute quantum fluctuations in the early universe may have influenced events on the scale of galactic clusters today.
Christian and Scientific Pantheism also believes in free will. Our actions are usually shaped by our drives and the belief systems we have built up over our lives. But we are also free to change our ideas, and humans often do so. We can also learn to resist our selfish drives. Everyone has examples from their own lives of agonizing between alternative decisions that were very finely balanced.
The future is undetermined. The future of life on earth is ours to make - or unmake and all within God's scope.
"And God said, Let there be light: and there was light." Genesis 1:3
Does Christian Pantheism believe in an afterlife for the individual soul?
Some idealistic versions of Pantheism - such as neo-Platonism or Hinduism have held such beliefs.
No-one could completely exclude this possibility. But there is no scientific evidence for such beliefs.
Most modern Pantheists believe that the mind is an aspect of the body, and at death dissolves with the body to merge into the elements from which it was formed. If there is any validity at all to near-death experiences, then this is what they are expressing.
Christian Pantheism affirms an afterlife, because it affirms a before-life that are simply returning to.
For environmental as well as religious reasons, Christian Pantheism strongly prefers natural burials in special woodlands, at sea, or in other natural areas, where the individual can be reabsorbed into the nature of which they were, are and always will be a part.
"No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven--the Son of Man." John 3:13 New International Version
Without the hope of heaven, what incentive is there to morality?
The idea that the hope of heaven is the only guarantee of moral behavior is absurd. Highly ethical behavior is found among peoples who do not believe in heaven - for example, many Chinese, or Japanese.
Conversely, crime and corruption are rife in classical Christian societies. Nowhere was the hope of heaven stronger than in medieval Europe - yet few places on earth have seen injustice, oppression, and violence on such a scale, much of it in the name of classical Christianity.
The strongest stimuli to moral behavior in all human societies are parental and social discipline, either externally imposed, or internalized. Plus the direct rewards for good behavior - love and social recognition. These factors ensure that we are often punished and rewarded for our deeds before we die - though chance and social injustice can often distort the outcome.
Of course, religion can provide support for ethics, and Christian Pantheism provides better support than religions, which just believe in heaven and hell.
Christian Pantheism believes that we live on in nature where we are re-absorbed on Earth as it is in Heaven, but also in people's memories and in the achievements we leave behind. Therefore we have a powerful incentive to be good and kind to people, and to achieve lasting good in our lives. The kinder we are, the more good we do, the longer will be our "afterlife" in people's memories. If we do harm, then our memory will be execrated.
Contrast this with the God of classical Christianity who forgives mortal sins even on the deathbed and can reward mass murderers with heaven if they are truly penitent. What kind of incentive for lifelong morality is that? None
Christian Pantheism also takes into account the God grace given capacity for extreme change on the part of nature and of individuals. In this Grace so many of us find redemption and renewal before it is to late to share it with ourselves and loved ones.
"We have been condemned justly, because we are getting what we deserve for what we have done, but this man has done nothing wrong. Then he went on to plead, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom!" Luke 23: 41-43 International Standard Version
If there is no personal creator God, wouldn't the universe and human life have no meaning or purpose?
There are two meanings for the word purpose. One is purpose in relation to something external. By definition the Universe comprises all that exists: there is no outside in relation to which it could have purpose. If God exists, we can include him in this All, and the totality "God plus universe" would have and could have no conceivable purpose. Theists claim that God is self-sufficient and can exist without purpose. So why can't the universe?
But we can have purpose in the second sense: purpose and goals for our lives, which we freely choose for ourselves, in the light of the needs of others humans, animals and ecosystems. The fact that our lives have no external purpose designed by some classical dictator in the sky liberates us to create our own purposes!
Finally consider the so-called "purpose" the God of Judaism, classical Christianity and Islam has planned for us: to struggle through a miserable brief spell on a stage designed as a testing ground for eternity, and prove we are good enough to get into the real show which only starts when we're dead.
What on earth would be the "purpose" of setting up such a show, creating little puppets and seeing whether they're good enough and burning the ones that aren't for all eternity? The truth is that theists cannot provide any convincing purpose for life or for the universe either.
For the Christian pantheist, the purpose of life is to connect more deeply and harmoniously with the Divine Universe, with Christ, with God, nature and other humans, and to help others to do so.
"For it is written, "As certainly as I live, declares the Lord, every knee will bow to me, and every tongue will praise God." Romans 14:11 International Standard Version
Nature and the universe are changeable and sometimes hostile. Isn't that incompatible with the idea of divinity?
Change and flux are facts of life throughout the divine cosmos. So are the risks on earth of disease, accident, collision with meteorites and so on.
It is true that these attributes of the universe and nature are not compatible with pre-conceived ideas about God as an unchanging, loving being. But Christian Pantheism does not believe in such a classical God, and accepts the universe as it is - wonderful, mysterious, creative, exuberant, joyful, and yet also at times chaotic and destructive.
Evil and pain exist for theists too, and they are extremely difficult to reconcile with the idea of an omnipotent, yet loving God. classical Christian apologetics have still not come up with any satisfactory explanation of why God should have created them.
Consider the reverse of the coin: how can classical Christians feel love and gratitude towards an all-powerful God who has created disease and pain; a God who has given humans the free-will to do evil, and then if they use it punishes them for all eternity; a God who is planning to wrap up creation, destroy the earth violently, and create a new heaven and a new earth?
How can we feel gratitude or love or worship towards impersonal matter? Matter is not impersonal: it is our very substance. If we cannot love matter, then we cannot love ourselves as we are. Almost everyone loves nature, even though it is impersonal, and often seems indifferent or cruel. We can feel gratitude, too, to nature and the universe, for giving us the privilege of conscious life. People love mountains, oceans and stars - even though they know these things are material and impersonal and cannot love them in return, and yet when in nature we do feel loved. This is the very essence of Christian Pantheism, feeling.
"For having sorrow in a godly way results in repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regrets. But the sorrow of the world produces death." 2 Corinthians 7:10 International Standard Version
How can we pray to the universe and nature?
The short answer is that we can't.
But can we pray to a classical external God and realistically hope that out of nearly six billion humans in an immense universe he will come to our personal assistance? No.
Could we really expect any kind of just internal God to alter decisions and laws simply because we asked to do us a favor? Yes. Huh?
We are the 'New Temple', where God resides, now. It is we ourselves - our thoughts, our feelings, our determination, our actions - who decide what happens to us.
So, Christian Pantheists can meditate on the right course of action, and pray to Christ, to summon up the determination to act.
They can also meditate on and with nature, and achieve states of mental union with all creation and the universe akin to mystical spiritual states.
"Truly, I tell all of you emphatically, the one who believes in me will also do what I'm doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I'm going to the Father." John 14:12
Isn't it idolatry to worship the creation and not the Creator?
t is not idolatry at all if there is no Creator. Even supposing there was a Creator who has left no visible trace of himself, if he were just then surely he would not punish us for worshipping his visible works?
Creation itself cannot be an idol or a graven image.
But, Christian Pantheists believe that the universe created itself and designed itself, because the Universe is Christ, Christ is the Universe.
If this is the case then the true idolatry is to worship an imaginary Creator rather than the visible and vibrant reality that surrounds us.
"I stood at that time as mediator between the LORD and you to declare his message to you, because you were afraid of the fire and would not go up the mountain. He said: "'I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt—from the house of slavery. You are to have no other gods besides me. You are not to make for yourselves a carved image resembling any form in the heavens above, on earth below, or in the waters under the earth. You are not to bow down to them in worship or serve them, because I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the iniquity of their parents to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, but showing gracious love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments. You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, because the LORD will not leave the one who misues his name unpunished. You are to keep the Sabbath day holy, just as the LORD your God commanded. Six days you are to labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath for the LORD your God. You are not to do any work—neither you, your children, your male and female servants, your oxen and donkeys, nor any of your livestock—as well as any of the foreigners who live among you, so that your male and female servants may rest as you do. You are to remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, but the LORD your God brought you out from there with great power and a show of force. Therefore, the LORD your God has commanded you to observe the Sabbath day. You are to honor your father and your mother, just as the LORD your God commanded you, so that your life will be long and things will go well for you in the land that the LORD your God is giving you. You are not to murder. You are not to commit adultery. You are not to steal. You are not to testify falsely against your neighbor. You are not to desire your neighbor's wife nor covet your neighbor's house, his fields, his male and female servants, his ox, his donkey, nor anything that concerns your neighbor. The LORD declared these commands in a loud voice to your entire assembly on the mountain from out of the fire and dark clouds, and nothing more was added. He inscribed them on two tablets of stone and gave them to me. Deuteronomy 5:5-22 International Standard Version
"Now God saw all that he had made, and indeed, it was very good! The twilight and the dawn were the sixth day." Genesis 1:31 International Standard Version
