This is an attempt to answer to the question "Do people who commit suicide go to Heaven immediately.” I'm assuming that people who read this are familiar with the Bible, and most of the concepts and scriptures already. I'm also assuming the ability to use basic research tools.
I will state my views, then give a list of verses that I believe justifies many of them. I am using the King James Version of the Bible in this document, both because it was requested, and because we have hundreds of years of culture based around it. A quote from it is far more likely to be recognized than from other translations. I have looked at the newer, more recently accepted Alexandrian based Greek texts, as well as Metzer's textual commentary on the NA27/UBS3 text on most of the Greek verses. I've mostly used the Mazoratic text for the old testament with limited references to the LXX, and I've used Strong's analytic capabilities using the SWORD library tools.
("Fear" used in KJV often maybe better translated "Respect." The word instructs to not fear, to not believe negatively. "Trembling" shows strong emotion, as in Ps 2:11 Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling.)
As always, don't accept my or anybody else views on the Word. Study to make sure:
Phil 2:12, 13Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
Because of my observations while working of the word, I believe that the Bible as originally given is in fact the word of God. It is Good, Acceptable, and has Inner Harmonious Perfection. To understand it, one must pay close attention to whom each part is written, local and broader contexts, the actual meaning of each word as used in the Bible, figures of speech, and the usage of language at the time and place where each part was written.
Three things were created in Genesis: Heavens and Earth (Matter-Energy), Soul Life, and Spirit for Man. Man was created as a three part being, his Body (plant life) was formed, his Soul (breath life, blood) was made from that created for aquatic and land animals. Mankind's Spirit, (in the image of God, who is Spirit), was created new, from nothing. That's the difference between "made" and "created." Of course, "formed" required almost no changes to the base elements.
<!-- Dominion over earth -->God gave Adam dominion over the earth and it's animals. Adam committed High Treason, and ceded it to the fallen angel Lucifer, who had caused the first heaven and earth to become void and without form. All of Adam's descendants are born with this sin nature.
<!-- Tree of Life Second Adam -->However, God had also made another legal way out, another man's soul, "stored," maybe as the Tree of Life in the garden. Lucifer did not gain control of him.
<!-- Death of Adam's Spirit -->God had told Adam that the day he ate from the tree, he would surly die. Adam's spirit, his direct connection to God, died. Adam, Eve, and their descendants were now two-part beings, basically owned my Lucifer, the god of this world. However, Lucifer was aware that God had a solution, and so kept working to stop it instead of destroying man outright. He attacked what was prophesied as the promised Christ line.
<!-- Spirit Upon Man -->From the point the death of Adam's spirit, God had to come into physical manifestation to talk to man: voice in wilderness, burning bush, etc. Because of the Law of Believing that God had already set up, he could place an aspect of the Spirit of Man, in limit measure, upon people who believed. It allowed more direct contact, without needing a physical manifestation.
<!-- Jesus gets Spirit in full measure -->Jesus, the son of Mary and however God stored the seed from the Garden, received the Spirit created for man in full measure when it descended upon him "like a dove" when he was baptized with water by John the Baptist) Jesus could have lost it; he could have given in to temptation like Adam did, but he didn't; he was tempted in all ways like we are, yet without sin.
<!-- Lucifer murders Jesus, Christ arises, Man made whole, the Mystery -->Lucifer, by murdering Jesus, lost some of his control. Starting on the day of Pentecost, after Christ had been raised from the dead by God, passed through the heavens, people who believe that God raised Jesus from the dead, and confess with their mouth Christ Jesus as their Lord 'shalt [absolute] be saved.' "Saved" means to be made whole: in this case, to be united with Spirit, the Spirit that was in Christ, in full measure. This is the mystery that was hidden from the beginning of the world, until it was revealed to Paul. Had Lucifer known it, he would not have crucified Jesus. He would rather have Jesus alive on earth than to have bunches of us with the spirit of Christ in us, with his full power.
<!-- Sin versus sins, Sonship rights -->When we are made whole, our old Sin nature dies. However, we still have many affects of having had it. When we are made whole, we are redeemed, sanctified, justified, and made righteous. We are children of God. However, we often don't fully believe our standing in God's house. We allow things to get in the way of our relationship with God; these things are called sins--our Sin nature is gone, but our habits are not. We are not perfect in our heads, and never will be. These sins cause us separation from the promises of God, not because he has a problem with us, but because we do: we don't believe we are good enough for him.
<!-- Law of Believing -->We have to get over our fear, doubt, and self-condemnation to get many of the benefits of being children of God. However, we _are_ still his children; we still have our Spirit; we are still whole.
<!-- The dead are dead -->When a person dies, they are dead. There aren't thoughts or emotions in the grave. I know, there are a couple of parables where somebody is alive in hell. A parable is a figure of speech, an extended simile. Similes use "like" or "as" to make a comparison to emphasize a point. They are the weakest form of comparison: one can't correctly draw a conclusion from one that is outside of the point being directly made. A metaphor is a stronger figure that allows us to make more broad comparisons. (An allegory is the wider version--an extended metaphor.)
<!-- Christ's Return -->When Christ returns in the clouds, believers who have died will be resurrected with spiritual bodies like he has now, and the living Christians will be changed in the twinkling of an eye. We will join him in the clouds and go with him to the place he has been preparing for us.
<!-- Defeat of Lucifer --> <!-- Resurrections -->After we return with him and battle Lucifer's hosts, there will be a resurrection of the just, then one of the unjust. The resurrection of the just will include the Jews who met the conditions for their time period, and those who believed him after his second coming. At the resurrection of the unjust, those who ae judged unjust will "die the second death." Lucifer and his hosts will be consumed in the lake of fire. There will be a new heaven and a new earth. Christians will go through the heavens, Jews who believed will be in Paradise, the new equivalent of Eden, on Earth.
<!-- Confusion of Meaning of Hell -->"Hell" in the bible is interpreted by most people like the Greek Hyades. A better translation of the word would be "gravedom." In the Old Testament, the same word is more often seen that way. God is a god of mercy.
<!-- closing -->Please check the verses against your Bible. I copied and pasted them, but I could have messed them up while editing.
Randy Charles Ford
randy
08/18/2014 for posting to my blog at http://ministers.themonastery.org/
Isa 43:7 Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.
1Thess 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Lev 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul. ["life" here is the Hebrew word for "soul"]
Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
2Cor 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
II Kings 2:9 And it came to pass, when they were gone over, that Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for thee, before I be taken away from thee. And Elisha said, I pray thee, let a double portion of thy spirit be upon me.
II Kings 2:10 And he said, Thou hast asked a hard thing: nevertheless, if thou see me when I am taken from thee, it shall be so unto thee; but if not, it shall not be so.
II Kings 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.
John 3:35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
Ephesians 4:7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
1Cor 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
1Cor 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
1Cor 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
1Cor 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
1Cor 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
Rom 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
Rom 16:26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
Eccl 9:10 Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.
Psalm 6:5 For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?
Psalms 146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.
I Cor 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
I Cor 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
I Cor 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
I Cor 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
I Cor 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
I Cor 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
I Thes 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
I Thes 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
I Thes 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
I Thes 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
I Thes 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
I Thes 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
Luke 14:14 And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just.
John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
John 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Rev 20:5 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
